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I always thought something like this sounded plausible but never realised it was actually available:

Electric Induction kit

Not exactly a Super Charger obviously, but maybe compete with the various free(er) flow intake systems?

On the other hand, beef up the battery (and generator?) and put a more powerful electric motor on it   

Nope, just a gimmick - will categorically NOT give you any more power, probably less.

If you think its too good to be true, it usually is...

There are a ton of articles about these bilge pump/leaf blower kits, and why they are a scam. Go research.

Same goes for intake inserts, such as Spiralmax.

andyelcomb:

will categorically NOT give you any more power

Surely you jest?!?

How can you say that after the replies this hair dryer Electric supercharger suppler has had from happy customers?

Such endorsements as "wos very satisfied with this company and would recomend them to frends and faimy" from "supersykes" (Who I believe is currently holding the position of resident professor of linguistics for Oxford university).

Or "joelm1988" who took time out from writing his latest scientific paper on the effects of micro gravity on single cell organisms to stat most eloquently "AWESOME....WELL PLEASED !" (Note his use of upper case letters to emphasise exactly how "Well pleased" he is).

So, With such shining recommendations from these fine upstanding persons how can you say that this product won't provide extra power?

I think you should go sit on the naughty step and think about what you've said.

Scotty B.

............On second thoughts, It is entirely possible that joelm1988 and supersykes could just be "Max Power" reading fuc*wits who wouldn't know the difference between seeing a well made and effective aftermarket tuning part and having hedgehogs fired out of an air cannon at their pink middle wickets. I'm not saying that this is the case, But it's one possibility that we should think about.

Mr Reman:

So, With such shining recommendations from these fine upstanding persons how can you say that this product won't provide extra power?

I think you should go sit on the naughty step and think about what you've said.

I stand, most humbly corrected, in the naughty corner with my dunces hat firmly on Mr R, bowing constantly to the greater wisdom of my peers.

andyelcomb:

Mr Reman:

So, With such shining recommendations from these fine upstanding persons how can you say that this product won't provide extra power?

I think you should go sit on the naughty step and think about what you've said.

I stand, most humbly corrected, in the naughty corner with my dunces hat firmly on Mr R, bowing constantly to the greater wisdom of my peers.

you shouldn't be in the naughty corner you were only asking! and if you don't ask you don't know........welcome to the world of the OC....sad times...

muppet:

andyelcomb:

Mr Reman:

So, With such shining recommendations from these fine upstanding persons how can you say that this product won't provide extra power?

I think you should go sit on the naughty step and think about what you've said.

I stand, most humbly corrected, in the naughty corner with my dunces hat firmly on Mr R, bowing constantly to the greater wisdom of my peers.

you shouldn't be in the naughty corner you were only asking! and if you don't ask you don't know........welcome to the world of the OC....sad times...

Did I forget to add the "I'm being ironic" smiley again?

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muppet:

..welcome to the world of the OC....sad times...

Whatever happened to the understanding of wit and irony

 Maybe if you get two kits it will give extra blow or suck depending on which way round you fit them????

M-m

Geoff Walton:

 

Whatever happened to the understanding of wit and irony

  Apologies to Sven for hijacking his thread, but I think he(she?) will understand our bit of fun.

 You could always get a shed load and fit them underneath and turn one into a hover car

Think of the fuel you would save

M-m

Mazda-mender:

 You could always get a shed load and fit them underneath and turn one into a hover car

Think of the fuel you would save

M-m

Yeah, and the tyres

Mazda-mender:

 Maybe if you get two kits it will give extra blow or suck depending on which way round you fit them????

M-m

It would certainly suck.

My understanding is that a standard car's electrical system cannot supply enough juice to turn the supercharge in any meaningful way. These ebay scams are all built on a kernal of a truth. The Spiralmax, and its imitators was "inspired" by an insert that GM used in a turbo-charged version of the Buick Regal. Similarly, I guess we will see a resurgence of these electric superchargers with the news that Borg-Warner has been working on such a device, and BMW will be using an electric supercharger-like system in an upcoming car. But of course, these will bear no resemblance whatsover to the kits assembled from about £40 worth of off the shelf components that these scamsters will be pushing.

The system that got closest to being taking seriously was the system developed by one Thomas Knight. His interview to a"serious" tuning magazine sounded plausible:

http://www.turbomagazine.com/tech/0406tur_knight_turbo_electric_supercharger/index.html

Note; he claimed a "nitrous like" effect; the supercharger was powered from seperate batteries; he reckoned 4 "standard" batteries would be needed in addition, to give about 10-15 seconds of boost. So think of the boot being filled with 5 batteries. There's no indication if an extra battery or 2 will be needed for winter or night time driving. There is a suggestion that if you get some sort of magical, super efficient alternator, you could reduce the number of batteries. So someone will need to figure out how to fit,say, a 2011 Mondeo alternator into a 1990 MX5..... Too many ifs.

Better minds than mine have looked at this kit, and have determined it can generate some boost, but it will have a really hard time getting over 4-5PSI.

If anyone is tempted, you can buy his serious electric centrifugal supercharger (though looking at the prices, why would you), as a generic kit that you somehow fit, or buy the Eaton version, again, not in a MX5-specific configuration. Its not clear what you get for your £3000; doesn't looking the batteries are included, but you might get some wires:

http://theboosthead.blogspot.com/p/pricing.html

Of course, boffin types might decide to get one of these used/half-inched ex-Mini Eatons, and hook it up to a cordless drill motor, and take it from there.....

andyelcomb:

Geoff Walton:

 

Whatever happened to the understanding of wit and irony

  Apologies to Sven for hijacking his thread, but I think he(she?) will understand our bit of fun.

No worries, pretty much what I had in mind!

But I also appreciate that there are Some more relevant comments  

AT:

Mazda-mender:

 Maybe if you get two kits it will give extra blow or suck depending on which way round you fit them????

M-m

It would certainly suck.

My understanding is that a standard car's electrical system cannot supply enough juice to turn the supercharge in any meaningful way. These ebay scams are all built on a kernal of a truth. The Spiralmax, and its imitators was "inspired" by an insert that GM used in a turbo-charged version of the Buick Regal. Similarly, I guess we will see a resurgence of these electric superchargers with the news that Borg-Warner has been working on such a device, and BMW will be using an electric supercharger-like system in an upcoming car. But of course, these will bear no resemblance whatsover to the kits assembled from about £40 worth of off the shelf components that these scamsters will be pushing.

The system that got closest to being taking seriously was the system developed by one Thomas Knight. His interview to a"serious" tuning magazine sounded plausible:

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Thanks AT for providing some Actual feedback