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Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July TIMES ADDED PLEASE CHECK!

Last post Mon, Aug 20 2012 18:31 by brianpng. 171 replies.
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  • Mon, Jul 9 2012 23:52 In reply to
    • h3yjt
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

    Ahh yeah. Makes sense then. Depending on which tyres you're after I've found 16's to come up more expensive than 17's in some instances. Always worthy bit of shopping around though eh.

    Think the 15's are a bargain for me then, so working on the basis that the Toyo's seem to have largely positive feedback for use on 5's - so I think I might confirm the order and take them for fitting at the event too. (Dave was fine with that).

    Must admit I was really impressed with the setup down at STS when I popped by earlier and they really know they're stuff. Extremely helpful guys.

    Does anyone know if there is a standard or recommended setup for the toe/camber angles etc.? Or is that a whole other can of worms and down to personal preference and/or an element of trial and error?

    1992 Mk1 Eunos Roadster 1.6 S-Special
    (Black with gold MazdaSpeed MSR-01R Rays wheels)
  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 0:53 In reply to

    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

    h3yjt:

    Does anyone know if there is a standard or recommended setup for the toe/camber angles etc.? Or is that a whole other can of worms and down to personal preference and/or an element of trial and error?

    For a lowered car (less than 355mm rear and 337mm front, measured vertically from the wheel arch lip to the centre of the wheel), I'd set it to, or as near as it'll go to:-

    Rear
    $*1%' Total Toe In
    -%*"£ Camber

    Front
    #*-+' Total Toe In
    -[*^%' Camber
    !*?|' Caster

    Some use similar settings for standard height cars. If you post your ride height I can give you the Mazda spec, which I think works well enough. Google "Lanny Settings" if you want to read some discussion on wheel alignment settings.

    Nice wheels BTW!

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  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 9:02 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July (2 Places Left)

    Hi Kevin,

    How does the day pan out...... is there a time 'slot' for each member or do we turn up a wait ?

    Looking forward to getting my car's geometry checked over as my wife and I have a 3 week road trip around northern Italy in September.

    Cheers

    David

  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 9:21 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July (2 Places Left)

    David R:

    Hi Kevin,

    How does the day pan out...... is there a time 'slot' for each member or do we turn up a wait ?

    Looking forward to getting my car's geometry checked over as my wife and I have a 3 week road trip around northern Italy in September.

    Cheers

    David

    Hi David

    I am currently working with Kieron at STS to sort out a schedule for the day, as you can imagine organising 20 wheel alignments and various other jobs takes a bit of planning.

    We work on half hour slots for the alignment but obviously have to take into consideraton the other work as well. There will be plenty going on during the day so feel free to come and spend as long as you like.

    I will post up the schedule as soon as its done.

    Regards

    Kevin

     

    2001 Mazdaspeed & 1991 MK1 Le Mans
  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 9:32 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July (2 Places Left)

    Hi Kevin,
    Fantastic..... no problem about my 30 min slot, I can fit in around your schedule.
    I will be travelling from Huntingdon, so maybe not to early!
    Regards
    David

  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 17:43 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July (2 Places Left)

     hi Kevin

    I think I have to pull out of this brilliant opportunity as I have just stacked the car with suspension damage - bugger (on many fronts!)

    Please release my slot and fill it if at all possible. Sorry for the late notice - accidents are a little unpredictable by nature.

    Have a good everyone!

    cheers

    Rick

    '51 Mk 2.5 Sport in Racing Green
  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 23:42 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

    Roadster Robbie:

    For a lowered car (less than 355mm rear and 337mm front, measured vertically from the wheel arch lip to the centre of the wheel), I'd set it to, or as near as it'll go to:-

    Rear
    0*18' Total Toe In
    -1*08 Camber

    Front
    0*18' Total Toe In
    -0*20' Camber
    4*53' Caster

    Some use similar settings for standard height cars. If you post your ride height I can give you the Mazda spec, which I think works well enough. Google "Lanny Settings" if you want to read some discussion on wheel alignment settings.

    Nice wheels BTW!

    Robbie,

    Thanks for the help! - all sounds very scientific to me. Looking forward to getting everything setup nicely though. I bet the current settings are all over the place on my car.
    I've just measured the distances from arch to wheel centre and it seems to be approx 337mm front and back.

    The rear still has (yellow) Bilstein shocks, but the front shocks were worn so replaced with what appears to be a standard product, just before I bought the car.
    Does that explain why the front doesn't sit lower than the rear now? Or is it the springs that determine the ride height? (Please excuse my ignorance on this part).
    When the car was up in the air at STS last week one of the guys wondered if the rears might be adjustable/coilovers? Not sure if that's relevant.

    Thanks for the feedback on the wheels. Just don't look too closely at them as they are definitely I need of a refurb. Embarassed Hope to get that done ready for next Summer.
    Just ordered a set of 4 Toyo Proxes T1Rs (195\50 R15) from TyreTraders.com, for the STS guys to fit on the day.
    Got them for £143.67 including VAT and delivery from TyreTraders.com which is about £50 cheaper than some other quotes I received. (Just hope they arrive in time!)

    Look forward to seeing you (ALL) at the Geometry Day! Cool
    Jamie

    1992 Mk1 Eunos Roadster 1.6 S-Special
    (Black with gold MazdaSpeed MSR-01R Rays wheels)
  • Thu, Jul 12 2012 7:15 In reply to

    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

    Sorry Kevin, I'm going to have to pull out too. I still haven't had a chance to change my springs and I know I won't have time before the event so there'll be no point in me having the alignment done. This has turned into a busy time of year for me.

    Hopefully you'll fill the slot quickly.

    1990 Red NA 1.6
  • Thu, Jul 12 2012 11:28 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

    Betty_Swallocks:

    Sorry Kevin, I'm going to have to pull out too. I still haven't had a chance to change my springs and I know I won't have time before the event so there'll be no point in me having the alignment done. This has turned into a busy time of year for me.

    Hopefully you'll fill the slot quickly.

    No problem, Thanks for letting me know so soon.

    So One place up for grabs.

    2001 Mazdaspeed & 1991 MK1 Le Mans
  • Thu, Jul 12 2012 12:58 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

     2 palces Kev?

    Did you see my post 3 or 4 up from here (Tuesday)?

    As I said - sorry for the short notice but the car is probs a W/O so nothing to set-up.

    Cheers

    Rick

    '51 Mk 2.5 Sport in Racing Green
  • Thu, Jul 12 2012 13:11 In reply to
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    Re: Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July 2012

    Rickster:

     2 palces Kev?

    Did you see my post 3 or 4 up from here (Tuesday)?

    As I said - sorry for the short notice but the car is probs a W/O so nothing to set-up.

    Cheers

    Rick

    Hi Rick

    Yeah I did get your message thanks an really sorry to hear about the car.

    It is only one place as I have Dave on the reserve list for one of them.

    Hope you get the car sorted 

    Kevin

     

    2001 Mazdaspeed & 1991 MK1 Le Mans
  • Fri, Jul 13 2012 0:18 In reply to
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    Re: ER Event - Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July Now Full!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    id like to get on this if possible so if someone drops out ill jump in :)

     

    cheers

    adam mk3 lowwered 35mm

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  • Fri, Jul 13 2012 0:58 In reply to
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    Re: ER Event - Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July Now Full!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I'll have a second reserve place pls too, as long as it doesn't cost me as much as last time!? Lol!

    Ian J
    (1) 1991 1.6 Classic Red JR Supercharged, (2) 1990 1.6 BBR turbo track car (Le Mans Imposter!),
    (3) 1994 1.8 (ex BRG MX-5) MEV Exocet (part built up to wiring in the electrics!) , (4) 1997 1.8is Classic Red, Intercooled Begi Turbo, (5) 1991 1.8is Classic Red MK1/MK2 hybrid with FM2 Turbo (long term in progress!), (6) 2002 1.8s VT Crystal Blue Metallic - the intended MEV Exocet donor?! ;-)
  • Fri, Jul 13 2012 13:25 In reply to
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    Re: ER Event - Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July Now Full!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    adam taylor:

    id like to get on this if possible so if someone drops out ill jump in :)

     

    cheers

    adam mk3 lowwered 35mm

    Hi Adam

    I have an alignment spot at 12:00 if you can make it.

    I will pencil your name on it until I hear.

    Kevin

     

     

    2001 Mazdaspeed & 1991 MK1 Le Mans
  • Fri, Jul 13 2012 13:26 In reply to
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    Re: ER Event - Geometry Day (£30) Sunday 29th July Now Full!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Malcolm Mazda:

    I'll have a second reserve place pls too, as long as it doesn't cost me as much as last time!? Lol!

    Hi Ian

    You are now first on the reserve list.

    Kevin

     

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