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Last post Tue, Jul 10 2012 20:12 by peterlg. 6 replies.
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  • Sun, May 20 2012 19:20
    • peterlg
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    Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

    Yesterday I changed the engine, gearbox and differential oils on my new mx5, so I thought I'd write a quick post saying how I did it just in case it's useful for another first timer. My car is a 51 reg mk2.5 1.8 s-vt, with 6 speed gearbox and limited slip differential.

     

    The oils I went for were:

    Engine: Valvoline Engine Oil (Durablend FE Semi-Synthetic 5W30 Engine Oil (5 Litre))

    Gearbox: Castrol Driveline Syntrax Universal 1L x2 for the gearbox

    Differential: Valvoline High Performance Gear Oil GL-5 80W90 1Ltr for the differential

     

    Got all the required crush washers (sump drain plug, gearbox drain and fill plugs and diff drain and fill plugs) from the local Mazda garage. The parts needed to be ordered in though so took a couple of days to arrive.

    Started with the engine oil, took the car for a quick spin to get it warm and drove the front end of the car up onto ramps so I could get underneath. Put the oil drain can and tray underneath the engine and removed the drain plug, making sure that the location of the drain can allowed for the arc the oil will form when the plug first comes out. Left the oil draining and prepared the new filter by putting a thin film of oil on the seal around the edge and on the threads in the centre. Once the oil had pretty much drained, looked at removing the oil filter and found the only way I could actually get my arm in to remove it, would be to remove the strut brace (4x 13mm bolts). With the strut brace removed, took the filter off (for me this was easy as it unscrewed with only a little effort). I tried to unscrew it quickly as because it is located horizontally, it starts to leak oil down the side of the engine, and when it is fully unscrewed, turn it upright so as to restrict the amount of oil spilled. Then I wiped around the hole, where the filter would seal and carefully put the new filter on as to not get crap in it as it's quite tight to manoeuvre the filter down. Tighten the filter by hand and then check that the oil has stopped draining underneath. I had to lever the old washer off of the drain plug, then cleaned up the surfaces on the drain plug and sump, replaced the washer and torqued the bolt to 26lb/ft. Refilled with oil, putting in about 3 litres first, then checked the level whilst adding a little more each time. Ran the engine for a minute or so to get the oil flowing through the new filter and then rechecked the level and added a little more. Engine oil done. Just needed to clean up the oil spill from the filter and check for any leaks.

     

    EDIT: If you have a 6 speed gearbox, take a look at this link before proceeding: http://www.miata.net/garage/tsb/s05_112_02.html (thanks to Alan for the reminder about this.)


    Then, on to the gearbox oil change. First, we jacked the car up underneath the diff and put two axel stands under to make the car level. To access the gearbox, I removed both the underside protection panels, the one towards the rear of the car is held on by 4 23mm nuts and two 23mm bolts. These were the hardest to remove as they are open to all the elements, but with some SAS spray and a longish bar they came off ok. The panel further forward is held on by 4 10mm bolts which came undone no problem. With these two panels off, there were no problems with access to the gearbox. Cracked the fill plug off first, and then the drain plug. Got the drain can in place and removed the fill plug and then the drain plug. Surprisingly, the oil came out quicker than the engine oil, and because of the wider flow, made a splash on the top of the drain can. Left this draining whilst we went for lunch. After lunch, the flow had stopped, so cleaned up the two plug holes and bolts and changed the washers over to new ones. Put the drain plug back in and torqued up to 30 lb/ft. To get the oil back in, we used a tube with a funnel on the end fed through the engine bay and into the gearbox. The oil flowed incredibly slowly, so this method took ages (I wasn’t timing, but it felt like it was at least half an hour), but it did work. When the correct level had been reached, the oil overflowed from the fill plug, then put back in the fill plug after cleaning the surfaces and torqued up to 30 lb/ft. Gearbox oil done. Put the underside panels back on (the larger panel has holes on one end, and forks on the other, so if you put the bolts into the chassis first, then slide the panel in and put the bolts in the other hand, this means you can easily do it yourself, this will also help during disassembly).

     

    To change the diff oil, we took the car down off of the axle stands and ramps. My drive has a flat section, which leads into a sloped section, so I put the back end of the car over the point where it changes, to give a little more access, but the car could be jacked up to help. No panels to remove for access here, so just cracked off the fill and drain plugs. This would have been easier with bi hex sockets, as there was not much space to swing the bar, but it was just about possible by using my shoulder to lift the body of the car whilst lying on the floor. One of the plugs is 23mm and the other is 24mm. Again, got the oil pan under the car and took out the drain plug, taking into account the arc, and drained the oil out. Once the flow had stopped, cleaned up the contact surfaces for the drain and fill plugs, changed over the washers and torqued the drain up to 35 lb/ft. The oil bottle had a tube that you pull out, then put into the hole and squeeze, which is excellent for getting half of it out, but the idea only really works if you can get the bottle upside down, which you can’t. So I filled the remainder using a 20ml syringe… This took a while, but again, it worked. Once full, as with the gearbox, the oil overflowed the fill hole and I put back in the fill plug and torqued to 35 lb/ft.

     

    There may be steps here that I’ve missed, but this covers the most important stuff. Hopefully useful to someone.

    South East England
    Silver 1.8 Mk2.5 S-VT
  • Sun, May 20 2012 20:01 In reply to
    • peleton72
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    Re: Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

    Cheers Peter,

    Getting the car ready for Blyton and you've reminded me that I have the same fluid changes still to complete...will take your advice above and get cracking Thumbs up

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  • Wed, May 30 2012 21:37 In reply to

    Re: Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

                                            PLEASE READ THIS BEFORE YOU CHANGE THE GEAREBOX OIL IF YOU HAVE A SIX SPEED

    Before changing the oil in a 6 speed gearbox please read this Mazda Service Bulletin.  If you undo the wrong plug you could end up needing a re-build.

    http://www.miata.net/garage/tsb/s05_112_02.html

    It's a good write up but just making you aware

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  • Thu, May 31 2012 10:02 In reply to
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    Re: Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

    Thanks for the detailed write up - I'm about to do these on mine.

    And Alan, thanks for the warning on the 6 speed box - I had read this before but it's worth the reminder!

    2001 Mk2.5 Silver S-Vt Sport 1.8
  • Thu, May 31 2012 11:24 In reply to
    • peterlg
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    Re: Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

    Thanks Alan for pointing people to the Mazda Service Bulletin, it's worth reading. I've added it to the body of my original post to make sure it's seen.

    Glad the write up has been useful to a few people, and Mark, looks like we have a pretty similar car!

    South East England
    Silver 1.8 Mk2.5 S-VT
  • Mon, Jul 2 2012 9:40 In reply to
    • chris h1
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    Re: Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

    I used one of these from Machine Mart to refill diff & gear box oils, made life much easier & cheap as well.

    Chris H1

    Mazda MX5 Phoenix (Black) 1.8 (2002)
  • Tue, Jul 10 2012 20:12 In reply to
    • peterlg
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    Re: Engine, gearbox and diff oil change

    chris h1:

    I used one of these from Machine Mart to refill diff & gear box oils, made life much easier & cheap as well.

    For £8 I would recommend one of those to anybody. Would have likely saved an hour.

    South East England
    Silver 1.8 Mk2.5 S-VT
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