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bungle1
#1 Posted : 30 January 2013 16:32:29(UTC)
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When I purchased my MX5 new in 2011 I was never happy with the idea that I never had a spare wheel, just a puncture kit, which I do not hold much faith in.

It has aways been in the back of my mind to purchase a spare wheel, I have aways looked on the 'For Sale' forum and ebay but never seen any wheels that would suit, until this week, a member is selling four wheels that are identical to my own 5J x 17in. on the for sale forum. I almost sent an email regarding purchase price collection details etc. etc.

Then I thought will it fit in my boot. I tried the spare wheel from my wifes 'A' Class Mercedes which is smaller in diameter than the MX's. The answer is no it does not fit in the Mx5 boot. so I'll just save my money and hold more faith in the puncture kit supplied with the car.

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#2 Posted : 30 January 2013 16:46:58(UTC)
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There is a very long thread on this very subject if you do a search for it.  Someone came up with a suitable spare off, I believe, a Hyundai

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#3 Posted : 30 January 2013 17:13:16(UTC)
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I believe the average driver  expects to get a puncture every 44,000 miles or once every 5 years! 

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#4 Posted : 30 January 2013 17:49:08(UTC)
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 I must be below average then - I've had 1 MX5 puncture since I bought the car 3 years ago, and between mine and my wife's car I get a flat every 18 months - 2 years. Not surprising when you see the debris on Birmingham's roads (I once had 1/2 of a spark plug stuck in a brand-new tyre!)

Seriously though 1st thing I did was get a spare rim, have a tyre put on it, and put it in the garage, that way the impact is reduced. Don't make the mistake I did and buy a new rim though without first checking ebay or this forum!

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#5 Posted : 31 January 2013 13:27:08(UTC)
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Bungle
Aside from tyres that gunk that Mazda use is, to be frank, sh*t!

Go buy something like Holt's Tyreweld
If you need to use the gunk you will write-off the tyre even if otherwise repairable.
If you use the Tyreweld it can be cleaned out and a repairable tyre will live again

People have tried to go down the route of having a spacesaver.
Yeah BUT if you do change your spare where will you put your full size deflation?
As RM has said he has his in his garage. Good move as i don't see the point of carrying a spacesaver

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#6 Posted : 01 February 2013 09:50:33(UTC)
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Hyundai Coupe 5 stud 2004-on and RX8 (below) fit with standard wheelnuts and go in the boot.

Put the punctured one in the passenger seat or the boot and hold the lid down with a bungee, it only contacts the rubber.

Yes, full size spare alloy in the garage which can be rotated with the others to avoid wasting the tyre.

 

 

 

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#7 Posted : 01 February 2013 10:36:00(UTC)
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Seems the most elegant solution yet.

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#8 Posted : 01 February 2013 10:54:55(UTC)
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A great idea as long as you don't need all the (small) boot space.

On both my Mk 1s I've ditched the space saver spare and carried a can of Tyreweld. One puncture in the Loire valley and it got me home safely with cruising speeds between 50 and 70. As long as the garage is prepared to clean out the trye then there should be no problem repairing it - as long as it is repairable of course. If the garage say it can't be done without checking go somewhere else !

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#9 Posted : 02 February 2013 13:31:02(UTC)
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 Hi RichM,

Thanks for the info. Thats a nice looking wheel but is it 17in.????????

Where did you source that one from. I have searched ebay, both Hyundai & RX8 but to no avail, any assistance would be appreciated.

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#10 Posted : 02 February 2013 16:08:12(UTC)
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[quote user="bungle1"]

 Hi RichM,

Thanks for the info. Thats a nice looking wheel but is it 17in.????????

Where did you source that one from. I have searched ebay, both Hyundai & RX8 but to no avail, any assistance would be appreciated.

Bungle 1

[/quote] 

It's the overall rolling radius that counts. Might be worth checking the rolling radius of the 16" standard tyres v the 17" that you use - could be the same. Try this link http://www.club80-90syncro.co.uk/Syncro_website/TechnicalPages/TRC%20calculator.htm.

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#11 Posted : 03 February 2013 08:46:16(UTC)
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Hi Bungle,

Yes as Richard (rmurphy) says, 16” and 17” Mk3 wheels are almost identical diameter with tyres at 24.1” and 24.3”.

The RX8 space saver is 17” and just fractionally smaller at 23.9”.

The Hyundai Coupe space saver is 16”
and a bit smaller again at 22.9” but still nearer to Mk3 road wheel size than the road wheels of the car it is supplied for (24.6”).

Search eBay for “breaking hyundai
coupe” if you can't find one under spare wheel or space saver. The
ads will be for one part but say the whole car is available. Email
the breakers of post 2004 5-stud cars asking for the space saver as
they all came with one as standard. Ask if it has the number in the
pic below stamped on it and the tyre size. It's the last part with
HM that is the part number. The first part is a date code I think
(week/year?) and rim size, also dated on the Khumo tyre, and varies. Do ask as I've seen some on there advertised wrongly like Mitsubishi FTO which do not fit. Typically £50 or so.

The RX8 one was an accessory only so
there aren't many around and you just have to wait or chase one down, mine was £150, you may be able to get them new from Mazda still. As ever this works for me and is all posted in good faith so do a trial fitting if you get one and let us know.

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#12 Posted : 05 February 2013 16:54:32(UTC)
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Similar thread on Scottish forum - same issues - was recommended "Slime" sealant which is washable and was reasonably priced on Amazon - allows puncture to be repaired. I had a puncture on a week old MK3.5 late on a Friday afternoon - managed to get wheel to local Natioan Tyres and they kindly repaired tyre there and then at no charge.

 

 

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#13 Posted : 06 February 2013 09:14:51(UTC)
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Whether or not we're bothered about carrying a spare wheel might be down to previous exp.

I've never had a mechanical breakdown in over 40 years of bikes and cars. But I've had many punctures, one in partic resulting in a long walk through Derbyshire lanes, a bus, then a train home. A sidewall blow out in France going for the ferry home, raining, everything out the boot but at least we had a spare. A Spanish hire car sidewall blowout again, in the mountains miles from anywhere, but again a spare in the boot (I think you still have to carry a spare in Spain).

More recently, two Passat puntures in 5 years which wouldn't have been fixable with goo (full size spare). Subarau puncture (space saver). Clio puncture (full size spare). Polo puncture (full size spare) etc etc. Oddly I can't remember a single puncture in the 6 or 7 year I was travelling 40K a year for work so I'm sure it's all very erratic but equally sure it's a blooming nuisance when it happens!

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#14 Posted : 06 February 2013 12:41:01(UTC)
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I have heard from a parts guy at a Mazda dealer that while they sell a spacesaver for the RX-8 they can not get hold of a tyre to fit them. The wheel comes from Mazda without a tyre!!!!!

If it's broken, repair and improve it. If it's not broken, just improve it.

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#15 Posted : 07 February 2013 10:35:01(UTC)
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[quote user="MX-Drew"]

I have heard from a parts guy at a Mazda dealer that while they sell a spacesaver for the RX-8 they can not get hold of a tyre to fit them. The wheel comes from Mazda without a tyre!!!!!

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Yes, I suppose tyres can age and go out of date. Here's a stockist of the tyres if anyone buys a new wheel.

 

 

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#16 Posted : 01 June 2015 16:29:59(UTC)
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Thank you all for this information.

I never fancied relying on a can of gunge to "repair" a punctured tyre & my previous puncture
experiences often involved a nail etc. damaging a side wall. Anyway the kit was out of date.

The RX7 FD wheel with a 135/70/16 tyre fits neatly in the boot as Rich's picture shows.
The 205/45/17 wheel's diameter 616.3mm, FD wheel diameter 595.4mm, 10.45mm drop in ride height.
Speedo difference 31 @ 30 mph 62 @ 60 mph
Not that I fancy driving at 60 mph on this alloy skinny space saver! I did not weigh it but it
feels half the weight of a regular wheel & tyre.

Now I feel confident that if either my wife or me are driving the Sport, if we puncture at least
we can carry on driving.

Keith

ps We have still got the MK2.5 supercharged & the Eunos 1.8 S Special, one has got to be sold,

probably the Mk2.5.  I cannot really justify 3 MX5's.

 

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#17 Posted : 01 June 2015 17:03:03(UTC)
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Very nice to have that reassurance of a spare to get out of trouble !
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#18 Posted : 01 June 2015 20:16:51(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: y0ungn1ck Go to Quoted Post
Very nice to have that reassurance of a spare to get out of trouble !

Yes, I can understand that.

But what do you do with the full size wheel and tyre that you remove? It won't fit in the boot, and unless you have a luggage rack it would have to go on the passenger seat, on the passenger's lap or be left beside the road. None of those seem like a particularly good idea to me.

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I know it's not a perfect solution to the dreaded puncture, but i carry this in my boot.

FOR MAZDA STOP 'n GO POCKET TYRE PLUGGER KIT

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/FOR-MAZDA-STOP-n-GO-POCKET-TYRE-PLUGGER-KIT-/390920865989?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item5b04b308c5

 

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Originally Posted by: Mister H Go to Quoted Post

Originally Posted by: y0ungn1ck Go to Quoted Post
Very nice to have that reassurance of a spare to get out of trouble !

Yes, I can understand that.

But what do you do with the full size wheel and tyre that you remove? It won't fit in the boot, and unless you have a luggage rack it would have to go on the passenger seat, on the passenger's lap or be left beside the road. None of those seem like a particularly good idea to me.

It goes in the boot albeit, the boot lid is held partially open, held by a strap or even string, not ideal but

certainly better no spare at all!!  See picture in Rich's post.

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